All the World's a Stage

It’s widely accepted that life itself is a performance. If so, what can theatre teach us about how to be ourselves?


About Thalia Goldstein

Dr. Thalia R. Goldstein is Assistant Professor of Applied Developmental Psychology. Her work focuses on children's developing social and emotional skills, particularly theory of mind, empathy, and emotional control and regulation, and how such skills intersect with children's engagement in pretend play, theatre, drama, and other imaginative activities. She directs the SSIT lab (The Social Skills, Imagination, and Theatre Lab), which conducts research that looks both at the effects of engaging in pretend play and theatre on children's social-emotional skills, and how children are understanding social information in fictional worlds. 

Dr. Goldstein received a Ph.D. in Developmental psychology in 2010 from Boston College. She completed post-doctoral training at Yale University from 2010-2012. Following this, she moved to Pace University, where she was an assistant professor from 2013-2017. Dr. Goldstein's research has been funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, National Endowment for the Arts, The John Templeton Foundation, Arts Connection, and the Department of Homeland Security. Her papers have appeared in Child Development, Trends in Cognitive Science, Journal of Cognition and Development, and Developmental Science, among others. Dr. Goldstein serves on the editorial boards of the journals Empirical Studies in the Arts and Imagination Cognition and Personality, and since 2017, she has been editor of the APA Division 10 Journal Psychology of Aesthetics, Creativity, and the Arts. 

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About the Philadelphia Shakespeare Theatre

The Philadelphia Shakespeare Theatre was founded as The Red Heel Theatre in 1989, initially focusing on classic works of English theatre. In 1993, Carmen Khan became the Artistic Director of Red Heel and in 1996 focused the company’s efforts on the works of Shakespeare, renaming it The Philadelphia Shakespeare Festival. In 2008/2009, we engaged in intensive planning with our board of directors and cultural and community leaders and decided to re-brand and rename the company The Philadelphia Shakespeare Theatre, to better reflect our programming. We now have several programs for adults and students including a lecture series featuring world-renowned Shakespeare Scholars, Professional Touring Shakespeare Productions in schools and community centers, and a Classical Acting Academy providing early career actors with intense classical training. In the past twenty years, The Theatre has produced over 50 plays, reached over 100,000 High School students and over 110,000 adult audience members.

In Summer 2008, The City Council of Philadelphia passed a resolution honoring The Theatre for excellence in performance and educational programming, recognizing the impact The Theatre has made on Philadelphia’s cultural landscape and particularly on its students.

Carmen Khan is the President of the Board of Directors of the Philadelphia Shakespeare Theatre. 

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About Brian Anthony Wilson

Brian Anthony Wilson was born on February 22, 1960 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. He is an actor and producer, known for Limitless (2011), The Postman (1997), and Law Abiding Citizen (2009). He has been married to Greer M. Richardson, PhD since September 30, 2005.


About Deaon Griffin-Pressley

Deaon Griffin-Pressley (originally from Fort Lauderdale, Florida) is a New York City-based playwright, actor, singer, director & teaching artist. He has been featured in many of Shakespeare's classics with many Off-Broadway and regional theatres including Shakespeare & Company, Actors' Shakespeare Project, The Philadelphia Shakespeare Theatre, The American Globe Theatre, Oxford Shakespeare Company, and Hypokrit Theatre Company. 

With nine plays completed, over 200 sonnets penned, and five plays under editing, Deaon has the determination to write as many plays as his favorite poet William Shakespeare.

His writing styles vary from 1st Century English, iambic hood-pentameter, realistic urban, to the sci-fi fantasy. 

Deaon's plays have been directed by Tony Award-winner Ben Harney (dir. Satan Vs. God) and have featured several Broadway actors including Jerome Preston Bates, J Nycole Ralph, and Tony-nominated educator, Kevin Coleman.

Other works have been directed by renowned stand-up comedian/actor Doug E Doug (featured on Jungle Fever, Cool Runnings, and The Cosby Show)

His original works have been produced with Woodie King Jr.'s New Federal Theatre, Rhymes Over Beats, The Lark, The Fringe Festival NYC, Manhattan Repertory Theatre Festival, Thespis NY Theater Festival, The National Black Theatre in Harlem, Venus/Adonis Theater Festival, DC Black Theater Festival, and The African Heritage Cultural Arts Center in Miami. He is an alumni of the Emerging Black Playwrights Group with the Liberation Theatre Company. Deaon has studied acting at the British American Drama Academy at Oxford University, with a full scholarship from the English Speaking Union.  

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Transcript

If all of the world is in fact a stage, and we are all merely players upon it, how good are actors at portraying us? And how good are we at playing ourselves? If in fact there is such a thing as a singular authentic self. Thalia Goldstein is a psychologist that spent several years as a professional actress. She now runs the social and cognition lab at Pace University.

Thalia Goldstein: Psychology and theater are the same thing. They're both trying to figure out why humans do what they do and how we can affect and change human behavior. They're just looking at it from very different viewpoints, through very different lenses.

Goldstein says that life itself can be considered a form of theater, particularly in high stress situations.

Goldstein: I think it is a theatrical process because you are aware of what you're doing. In scenarios such as interviews, there is a level of metacognitive awareness where you are both yourself and watching yourself. That little voice in your head that says “Okay, you don't wanna talk about this so much” or “Make sure you mention that you have this experience” or that you've done this task at some point. So this metacognitive awareness requires a lot of what we call working memory. The ability to sort of keep both the active conversation that you're engaged in, in mind, but also this other superordinate set of goals that you wanna make sure that you achieve, in mind. There's a great rule by the acting coach, Chekhov, that actors should always be in an 80-20 zone. 80 percent in character, where you are feeling the emotions of your character, really engaged with the other person that you're talking to. But 20 percent making sure that you know that you hit your lights and “What is my next line?” And so this 80-20 rule I think applies really well to how we present ourselves in everyday life because we have a superordinate goal of getting the job, of impressing the person we're sitting across the table with.

And just as we're constantly giving a performance in our daily lives, actors are simply rendering a more dramatic version of everyday life.

Goldstein: Theater came from the fact that we are trying to figure out how to present ourselves to other people. And theater and fiction generally just sort of distills that down to its most basic elements.

Carmen Khan: Plays are an encyclopedia of archetypes.

And none more than the plays of the Bard. The master to whom Carmen Khan, director of the Philadelphia Shakespeare Theater, has dedicated her life.

Khan: Jung wrote about this cast of characters that we all hold inside of us. When you see a Shakespeare play, the body of work has all of these types in it that we are. So there's the rescuer, the savior, the lover, the tyrant. And so Jung cataloged that and I believe that in Shakespeare's plays, the reason that 400 years later, why are they still resonating? Is because we see ourselves.

And for performers such as Brian Anthony Wilson, a busy stage and screen actor, each new role calls for a unique approach.

Brian Anthony Wilson: Each character walks differently, each character talks differently. They breathe differently. They drink differently. Somebody asks me, because I play a lot of cops, “You get tired of it?” No, because they're all different people.

But in order to embody another character on stage, actors first have to get their own personalities out of the way.

Goldstein: Most acting training starts with knowing yourself and understanding your own body and understanding your own reactions to events before you even begin to put another character on top of that.

Wilson: This above all, to thine own self be true. And it must follow as the night, the day. Thou canst not be false to any man.

Deaon Griffin-Pressley: I think actors, in a way, are kind of obsessed with the truth. That's the whole thing. It's not really acting.

For classically trained actor Deaon Griffin-Pressley, conveying the truth means digging deep into his own emotional memory.

Griffin-Pressley: Your sadness, your happiness, whatever exactly you're going through, there really is not that great of a separation.

Wilson: I am who I am, so I have to bring myself to every role that I play. And I've played murderers, I've played child molesters. I'm certainly neither one of those, but you have to find a way to I guess acclimate yourself to that.

AJC: Are you changed by any of the characters you've played?

Wilson: Oh god, yes. You kind of start seeing the world through that character's eyes sometimes. The character I played in Water By the Spoonful, I was so immersed in it and so enamored of him, I didn't want to let that character go. And maybe because it awakened parts of me that I wasn't that in touch with.

This focus on emotion is central to a more recent acting philosophy. The method espouses emotional memories as the basis of any convincing dramatic portrayal. But for some of its most dedicated practitioners, it can become a psychologically dangerous proposition.

Goldstein: The problem comes really when people try to sort of vaguely apply the method or teachers will push you to go back through traumas or emotionally difficult events that have happened in your past, and then once you're done saying “Okay, we're done, great, thank you.” The difficulty with the method is really spending a lot of time in a vulnerable emotional place and then sort of left at the end of it without recovery.

Wilson: I work with people who are very method and to the point where they almost can't separate themselves sometimes, they're that deep. And that's a little scary. Because you have to be able to almost look at yourself from a side view sometimes. When you're doing physical stuff, when you're doing stage combat, that can be very dangerous. Because they get so caught up in it, I've seen people hurt. I saw a guy start bleeding out on stage because the other guy just got so caught up in it. That's too much method.

And this kind of resetting is essential for the actor to return to his or her true self. Or as Carmen Khan would have it, true selves.

Khan: It's like we are buying into the fiction of “I”, like you're one unified thing. But there's multiple sides of me and multiple sides of you. I mean, one of the things, I go back to Jung. If you ignore the shadow parts of yourself, they come and bite you.

Goldstein: There's interesting work in the basic science of emotion regulation, how we control our emotions, that says that the more time you spend trying to put on a calm and happy face when you're angry, the more stressed out your body is going to become. You know, we have prescribed ways that we have to act when we're at work, when we're at school, when we're with our family. And the more those personas feel like acting, the less authentic they feel. The worse it feels, actually.

Instead, Goldstein suggests that by carefully observing our own emotions, we can react more mindfully.

Goldstein: You have to be fully, presently engaged in what you're doing. You can't engage in mind wandering, you can't be judging yourself as you're doing it, you have to be fully engaged in it. And I think that that applies both for acting on a stage and for acting in our everyday lives.

And so, in life as in art, you simply can't fake it.

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